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		<title>By: Quintin</title>
		<link>http://g33q.co.za/2009/10/03/going-closed-source-day-3/comment-page-1/#comment-232</link>
		<dc:creator>Quintin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi James.

Regarding your comments about my IE issues. It turned out that Bitdefender was at fault - so yes a browser plugin problem.

I noted that in my blog once I got that sorted out.

Note that there are several features about IE that I really liked. One, that is still lacking in Firefox is the coloured tabs and grouping as such.

My computer is not screwed up James, it has been running faultlessly ever since I got it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James.</p>
<p>Regarding your comments about my IE issues. It turned out that Bitdefender was at fault &#8211; so yes a browser plugin problem.</p>
<p>I noted that in my blog once I got that sorted out.</p>
<p>Note that there are several features about IE that I really liked. One, that is still lacking in Firefox is the coloured tabs and grouping as such.</p>
<p>My computer is not screwed up James, it has been running faultlessly ever since I got it.</p>
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		<title>By: James Schend</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Schend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Photoshop to do a logo for a website?

Photoshop Elements maybe, but even that is overkill for this task. &lt; $80.

Since you&#039;re adamant against open source, you can&#039;t use the best solution: Paint.NET, which is free and open source. And which is probably what the majority of people doing work like that are using.

As for IE problems, again, your computer is screwed up. Nobody&#039;s going to say IE is a speed demon, but it doesn&#039;t crash any more than Firefox does. Your IE add-ins, however, are more than capable of crashing the browser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Photoshop to do a logo for a website?</p>
<p>Photoshop Elements maybe, but even that is overkill for this task. &lt; $80.</p>
<p>Since you&#8217;re adamant against open source, you can&#8217;t use the best solution: Paint.NET, which is free and open source. And which is probably what the majority of people doing work like that are using.</p>
<p>As for IE problems, again, your computer is screwed up. Nobody&#8217;s going to say IE is a speed demon, but it doesn&#8217;t crash any more than Firefox does. Your IE add-ins, however, are more than capable of crashing the browser.</p>
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		<title>By: Quintin</title>
		<link>http://g33q.co.za/2009/10/03/going-closed-source-day-3/comment-page-1/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>Quintin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 05:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi int19h.

When I visit that site it shows a message that says that the service is not available in my country...

I will mull over your comments and may change my approach...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi int19h.</p>
<p>When I visit that site it shows a message that says that the service is not available in my country&#8230;</p>
<p>I will mull over your comments and may change my approach&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: int19h</title>
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		<dc:creator>int19h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; On day 1 I made it clear that I do not trust Windows Defender.

I wasn&#039;t talking about Windows Defender. It&#039;s not even AV! I was talking about this:

http://www.microsoft.com/Security_essentials/

&gt; I want to live my IT life for as long as possible the way most Windows users I encounter every day do, for some reason the average end-user seems to go around with the impression that “if I paid for it, it must be better.”

You&#039;re wrong, and frankly such attitude disqualifies your experience straight away. Most Windows users will go for free if they can get it. The difference is that most Windows users will also go for familiar and affordable over free and completely different. However, I haven&#039;t actually seen any Windows users who would be &quot;committed&quot; to Defender. Office - yes, especially Excel and Outlook (OO.org Writer is generally much easier to slip past than OO.org Calc). Photoshop (for those who are professionals) - hell yes. But for many smaller things, free is what people are after.

For AV specifically, I see people with either: 1) Norton/Symantec, because it came with their PC out of the box, and then nagged them about &quot;extending subscription&quot;, or 2) AVG or Antivir when they actually bothered to shop around. Well, okay, NOD32 also has some following among people who believe that its superior performance is worth the extra $$$. But that&#039;s about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; On day 1 I made it clear that I do not trust Windows Defender.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t talking about Windows Defender. It&#8217;s not even AV! I was talking about this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/Security_essentials/" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/Security_essentials/</a></p>
<p>&gt; I want to live my IT life for as long as possible the way most Windows users I encounter every day do, for some reason the average end-user seems to go around with the impression that “if I paid for it, it must be better.”</p>
<p>You&#8217;re wrong, and frankly such attitude disqualifies your experience straight away. Most Windows users will go for free if they can get it. The difference is that most Windows users will also go for familiar and affordable over free and completely different. However, I haven&#8217;t actually seen any Windows users who would be &#8220;committed&#8221; to Defender. Office &#8211; yes, especially Excel and Outlook (OO.org Writer is generally much easier to slip past than OO.org Calc). Photoshop (for those who are professionals) &#8211; hell yes. But for many smaller things, free is what people are after.</p>
<p>For AV specifically, I see people with either: 1) Norton/Symantec, because it came with their PC out of the box, and then nagged them about &#8220;extending subscription&#8221;, or 2) AVG or Antivir when they actually bothered to shop around. Well, okay, NOD32 also has some following among people who believe that its superior performance is worth the extra $$$. But that&#8217;s about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Quintin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quintin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 10:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Spoom.

Yes I know, and how I miss it!

Hi Ricardo.

Are you running the full release version or only the RC/Beta?

Could you check your logs on Win7 to see if you have this:

Faulting application name: iexplore.exe, version: 8.0.7600.16385, time stamp: 0x4a5bca42
Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 6.1.7600.16385, time stamp: 0x4a5be02b
Exception code: 0xc0000374
Fault offset: 0x00000000000c6cd2
Faulting process id: 0x82c
Faulting application start time: 0x01ca44cbf7217a0f
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll
Report Id: 85a53bdf-b0bf-11de-9e06-001377e3a18f</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Spoom.</p>
<p>Yes I know, and how I miss it!</p>
<p>Hi Ricardo.</p>
<p>Are you running the full release version or only the RC/Beta?</p>
<p>Could you check your logs on Win7 to see if you have this:</p>
<p>Faulting application name: iexplore.exe, version: 8.0.7600.16385, time stamp: 0&#215;4a5bca42<br />
Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 6.1.7600.16385, time stamp: 0&#215;4a5be02b<br />
Exception code: 0xc0000374<br />
Fault offset: 0&#215;00000000000c6cd2<br />
Faulting process id: 0&#215;82c<br />
Faulting application start time: 0&#215;01ca44cbf7217a0f<br />
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe<br />
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll<br />
Report Id: 85a53bdf-b0bf-11de-9e06-001377e3a18f</p>
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		<title>By: Ricardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 10:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude I have been running Windows 7 for more than 3weeks now and have not one of the issues you had sofar. I do however not run either skype nor Bitdefender. I do however run MS Office 2007 and Nod 32. IE8 works like a charm opening gmail and tabs open instantly. as to yet I have only recieved 2 update notifications namely one for my sounddriver and windows defender. My guess is that you are just having bad luck. Anyways good luck with your endless battle. BTW I have Vista 32bit ultimate, Ubuntu 9.04 and Win 7 64bit ultimate installed. And preformance wise I would say Ubuntu then Win 7 and lastly Vista.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude I have been running Windows 7 for more than 3weeks now and have not one of the issues you had sofar. I do however not run either skype nor Bitdefender. I do however run MS Office 2007 and Nod 32. IE8 works like a charm opening gmail and tabs open instantly. as to yet I have only recieved 2 update notifications namely one for my sounddriver and windows defender. My guess is that you are just having bad luck. Anyways good luck with your endless battle. BTW I have Vista 32bit ultimate, Ubuntu 9.04 and Win 7 64bit ultimate installed. And preformance wise I would say Ubuntu then Win 7 and lastly Vista.</p>
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		<title>By: Spoom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 01:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, the &quot;UAC&quot; you&#039;re talking about in Firefox is a feature of Firefox, not a feature of Ubuntu.  It&#039;s not an OS-level dialog.  That only happens with updates etc. and is actually just an app called &#039;gksudo&#039; (basically a graphical version of sudo) that elevates privileges and is launched automatically on some tasks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, the &#8220;UAC&#8221; you&#8217;re talking about in Firefox is a feature of Firefox, not a feature of Ubuntu.  It&#8217;s not an OS-level dialog.  That only happens with updates etc. and is actually just an app called &#8216;gksudo&#8217; (basically a graphical version of sudo) that elevates privileges and is launched automatically on some tasks.</p>
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		<title>By: Quintin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quintin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anonymous.

The only plugin that was installed to IE is the Bitdefender AntiPhishing toolbar.

As for skype... okay I checked your link and my add-ons and I do not have the skype add-on. In fact I remember that I explicitly did not allow Skype to install add-ons to IE.

In fac BD AntiPhishing is the only non Microsoft extention to IE that I have at the moment.

In fact it is th only Add-on except for the &quot;Windows Live Family Safety Helper Browser Class.&quot;

Last thing tonite I installed an adblocker from the Microsoft IE addons page and just for kicks that included THREE VIRUSES.

More on that tomorrow, now it is off to bed for me. Thanks for the comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anonymous.</p>
<p>The only plugin that was installed to IE is the Bitdefender AntiPhishing toolbar.</p>
<p>As for skype&#8230; okay I checked your link and my add-ons and I do not have the skype add-on. In fact I remember that I explicitly did not allow Skype to install add-ons to IE.</p>
<p>In fac BD AntiPhishing is the only non Microsoft extention to IE that I have at the moment.</p>
<p>In fact it is th only Add-on except for the &#8220;Windows Live Family Safety Helper Browser Class.&#8221;</p>
<p>Last thing tonite I installed an adblocker from the Microsoft IE addons page and just for kicks that included THREE VIRUSES.</p>
<p>More on that tomorrow, now it is off to bed for me. Thanks for the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m terribly curious as to what plug-in or other modification to IE was installed; and what software you installed that brought that plug-in aboard.

It&#039;s absolutely clear that IE8 does not, by default, take 5 seconds for a tab to start or crash 104 times per day.  I kind of suspect skype is the root issue there, since it has happened before: http://blogs.msdn.com/askie/archive/2009/07/17/slow-performance-in-internet-explorer-8-after-installing-the-skype-v4-1-application.aspx, though I&#039;ve never tried running IE8 with Bitdefender (which also installs a performance-sapping add-on), so that could be it, or the combination of all the plugins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m terribly curious as to what plug-in or other modification to IE was installed; and what software you installed that brought that plug-in aboard.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s absolutely clear that IE8 does not, by default, take 5 seconds for a tab to start or crash 104 times per day.  I kind of suspect skype is the root issue there, since it has happened before: <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/askie/archive/2009/07/17/slow-performance-in-internet-explorer-8-after-installing-the-skype-v4-1-application.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.msdn.com/askie/archive/2009/07/17/slow-performance-in-internet-explorer-8-after-installing-the-skype-v4-1-application.aspx</a>, though I&#8217;ve never tried running IE8 with Bitdefender (which also installs a performance-sapping add-on), so that could be it, or the combination of all the plugins.</p>
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		<title>By: Quintin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quintin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi int19h

Re: BitDefender

On day 1 I made it clear that I do not trust Windows Defender. I am not sure if you read the first day, but the point of this mission is to go for paid software, then free and proprietary, then free and opensource.

I want to live my IT life for as long as possible the way most Windows users I encounter every day do, for some reason the average end-user seems to go around with the impression that &quot;if I paid for it, it must be better.&quot;

Also I need to support Bitdefender every day, and this made it a logical choice - a chance to learn about the software I need to support while going through this.

Re: Photoshop

Thanks for the headsup! I have lived the FLOSS life for so long now that I simply don&#039;t know what options are open to me.

Re: Visual Web Developer Express.

Thanks I will have a look at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi int19h</p>
<p>Re: BitDefender</p>
<p>On day 1 I made it clear that I do not trust Windows Defender. I am not sure if you read the first day, but the point of this mission is to go for paid software, then free and proprietary, then free and opensource.</p>
<p>I want to live my IT life for as long as possible the way most Windows users I encounter every day do, for some reason the average end-user seems to go around with the impression that &#8220;if I paid for it, it must be better.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also I need to support Bitdefender every day, and this made it a logical choice &#8211; a chance to learn about the software I need to support while going through this.</p>
<p>Re: Photoshop</p>
<p>Thanks for the headsup! I have lived the FLOSS life for so long now that I simply don&#8217;t know what options are open to me.</p>
<p>Re: Visual Web Developer Express.</p>
<p>Thanks I will have a look at it.</p>
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		<title>By: int19h</title>
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		<dc:creator>int19h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; BitDefender

Why? Get that new free thingy Microsoft had just released. Or AVG. Or Avira.

&gt; I decide I need Photoshop.

Why? There are plenty of options, out of which Photoshop is most expensive (and also completely overkill for your task). Microsoft Expression Web+Design would cost you $150 (http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/Purchase.aspx#PageTop).

&gt; Visual Studio .Net: $125.00 on special from MS

Visual Web Developer Express is free, and will most likely be sufficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; BitDefender</p>
<p>Why? Get that new free thingy Microsoft had just released. Or AVG. Or Avira.</p>
<p>&gt; I decide I need Photoshop.</p>
<p>Why? There are plenty of options, out of which Photoshop is most expensive (and also completely overkill for your task). Microsoft Expression Web+Design would cost you $150 (<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/Purchase.aspx#PageTop" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/Purchase.aspx#PageTop</a>).</p>
<p>&gt; Visual Studio .Net: $125.00 on special from MS</p>
<p>Visual Web Developer Express is free, and will most likely be sufficient.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Tech » Going Closed Source Day 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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